creationism vs revisionism
in the summer of 1987 indie pop went a bit wrong.
someone broke it.
i think i lay the blame at the feet of alan mcgee.
he'd been a heroic figure to me through the 80's up to that point.
all those early creation records were astonishing - even the bad ones.
and there were a fair few bad ones - sorry everett, but yours is definitely amongst them (i do love "some of us still burn" if that's any consolation).
biff bang pow!'s "pass the paintbrush honey" was simply an incendiary slab of psyche punk pop.
mcgee had proved, to me at least, that he could make the records he preached about.
but by the mid 80's - as is beautifully described in david cavanagh's creation story - creation records and the world they'd created bought the rock cliché lock stock and barrel.
money offered by major labels didn't help.
leather trousers and cocaine.
the result of this?
two terrible records in my collection and a whole heap of disappointment.
"sonic flower groove" is, quite simply, a lame record.
listening back to it now it hasn't bettered with age.
i remember the weeks leading up to "sonic flower groove" being released.
getting excited that finally there was going to be a primal scream album.
then "gentle tuesday" came out as the taster for the album and it was SO bland.
"OK", i thought, "it can't all be like that".
and i was right - it wasn't all like that. most of it was worse.
but in terms of disappointment "sonic flower groove" had nothing on "mayflower".
the loft were a great pop band. they had that harsh wasp-in-a-tin-can (©the june brides) guitar sound that spat and sparked all over some great song writing.
unfortunately trying to be a bit rock round at creation records HQ seems to have somehow ended with someone saying, "yeah. i know. lenny kaye. that's what the weather prophets need".
now i have HUGE love for lenny kaye. after all he put together the first nuggets compilation.
and i can only imagine he had a torrid time in the studio faced with a bunch of pasty skinned english kids who thought they might like to try and be just a little bit like television (though without the style, artistry or knowhow).
the result of this crime against indie pop?
a record that sadly can only be described using the most terrible thing i think anyone can say about music..."mayflower" is pedestrian.
it's your mum's record collection.
it's a restaurant's muzak tape.
what a shame.
even the biff bang pow! records reflected the scene - punky psychedelia gave way to painfully faked california influenced wannabe west coast pop art experimental band boredom.
i gave up on creation and started buying more of the real thing - the afformentioned west coast pop art experimental band and joe byrd's astonishing united states of america.
music is like clothing - if it's dirt cheap then it's probably a fake.
someone broke it.
i think i lay the blame at the feet of alan mcgee.
he'd been a heroic figure to me through the 80's up to that point.
all those early creation records were astonishing - even the bad ones.
and there were a fair few bad ones - sorry everett, but yours is definitely amongst them (i do love "some of us still burn" if that's any consolation).
biff bang pow!'s "pass the paintbrush honey" was simply an incendiary slab of psyche punk pop.
mcgee had proved, to me at least, that he could make the records he preached about.
but by the mid 80's - as is beautifully described in david cavanagh's creation story - creation records and the world they'd created bought the rock cliché lock stock and barrel.
money offered by major labels didn't help.
leather trousers and cocaine.
the result of this?
two terrible records in my collection and a whole heap of disappointment.
"sonic flower groove" is, quite simply, a lame record.
listening back to it now it hasn't bettered with age.
i remember the weeks leading up to "sonic flower groove" being released.
getting excited that finally there was going to be a primal scream album.
then "gentle tuesday" came out as the taster for the album and it was SO bland.
"OK", i thought, "it can't all be like that".
and i was right - it wasn't all like that. most of it was worse.
but in terms of disappointment "sonic flower groove" had nothing on "mayflower".
the loft were a great pop band. they had that harsh wasp-in-a-tin-can (©the june brides) guitar sound that spat and sparked all over some great song writing.
unfortunately trying to be a bit rock round at creation records HQ seems to have somehow ended with someone saying, "yeah. i know. lenny kaye. that's what the weather prophets need".
now i have HUGE love for lenny kaye. after all he put together the first nuggets compilation.
and i can only imagine he had a torrid time in the studio faced with a bunch of pasty skinned english kids who thought they might like to try and be just a little bit like television (though without the style, artistry or knowhow).
the result of this crime against indie pop?
a record that sadly can only be described using the most terrible thing i think anyone can say about music..."mayflower" is pedestrian.
it's your mum's record collection.
it's a restaurant's muzak tape.
what a shame.
even the biff bang pow! records reflected the scene - punky psychedelia gave way to painfully faked california influenced wannabe west coast pop art experimental band boredom.
i gave up on creation and started buying more of the real thing - the afformentioned west coast pop art experimental band and joe byrd's astonishing united states of america.
music is like clothing - if it's dirt cheap then it's probably a fake.
7 Comments:
At 11:57 PM, Anonymous said…
bloody hell - am i the only person on earth that likes "sonic flower groove"? (quite possibly:)
i was a bit too young and uninformed to creations very early days - probably only started hooking onto their roster by 86 or so.
creation only really "lost it" for me from '94 onwards. britpop eh? shitpop, more like.
i would take creation circa 87 anyday over anything on the horrid mid 90s creation roster.
At 12:50 AM, Anonymous said…
Thing was, the idea in '87 was that "our" bands, if only they were played on the radio, would storm the music scene. A new punk, etc, consigning the soulless corporate muzak to the dustbin of history etc.
Problem was, radio wouldn't play them because they sounded like shit. Tinny thin production etc. So Creation/ Elevation, the only indie with the money to do so paid for a "proper" production job on Primal Scream, a band with a drummer who could hardly play and a singer who couldn't sing. The result's a compromise.
Don't know what Primal Scream were expected to do, really. They could have released a 15 track lp full of trebly jangle and we'd have all loved it, but it would never have stood a chance. Sonic Flower Groove was a failure, artistically and commercially, but at least they tried.
Mayflower sucks though, you're right.
I stiil owe you some cds...
BigAl
At 12:43 AM, Daniel Novakovic said…
Heh while I agree that "sonic flower groove" isn't all that great, it still contains one of my favorite songs ever; "Love You". I think it's amazing and was floored when I heard it the first time on a Peel-session that Harvey from Another Sunny Day posted. Bobby rules in that song despite wearing leathers pants
At 3:34 AM, ally. said…
the loft obviously worked because there were people around to tell astor not to do that shit - left to his own devices you get the dull horror of the weather prophets.
i thinkit's often the way with bands - it's easy to underestimate the influence of the other members, or the creative force of a whole unit. (or something...)
At 8:54 AM, Crayola Sarandon said…
for some reason i've not been getting notification of anyone leaving messages and comments.
apologies for not replying to you all.
um.
At 8:55 AM, Crayola Sarandon said…
no rush on the cds front.
whenever there's time in the day.
which be when i get round to writing something new in this damned blog.
At 12:56 PM, ROOKSBY said…
God knows what happened with Sonic Flower Groove, those songs all sounded great when P.S. rolled 'em out on their early Peel sessions. It's probably the curse of Mayo Thompson - I love The Red Krayola but his production skills seem pretty wayward (he botched the first Chills LP too).
Also, er, I'm secretly rather fond of Mayflower. Ulp!
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